Friday Coffee Chat (22)–Big Box Blunders








Is Big Box Reading in Danger?


Last week on Friday Coffee Chat I asked readers whether or not they were in book clubs. Most of you said that you would do a book club or were already in one (or even two). I thought that was a pretty interesting conversation because I expected more people to be solitary readers. Make sure you check to see if Jennifer from Girls Gone Reading put up a chat this week. If not, check out one of her awesome book reviews!

Chachic from Chachic’s Book Nook is also posting a discussion called “A Writer Only Begins a Book. A Reader Finishes It.” Make sure you head over to her blog as well after you finish here. Should be a great discussion!

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This week I wanted to explore the bookish news. By now everyone knows that Borders is on the verge of filing Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. For those of you that don’t know, Chapter 11 is the bankruptcy filing for reorganization. Chapter 7 bankruptcy is a liquidation filing (like Circuit City and Linens n’ Things filed several years ago and are no longer in business). So, Borders is looking at reorganizing the company in hopes to save itself and pay off its creditors. To do this, they are thinking of closing between 150-200 stores to lessen its debt load. Barnes & Noble is also having its own financial troubles (though it is currently much better off than Borders) as is Waterstones in the UK. I won’t bore you with all the details. If you are interested in reading some articles, here are a few:




Most bloggers I know prefer buying from indie stores and might be applauding the demise of big box reading. I myself try to buy from independent bookstores as well, but I also admit that I do buy from Borders and Amazon as well. When this story broke that Borders was likely to file Chapter 11 this week, I have to say that I got a little sad. While big box stores have been the bane of existence for many passionate readers, I couldn’t help but think that if more bookstores close, there is less opportunity for people to become readers. I admit that I even like browsing the big box stores because they have SO many books (There….I said it! I like going into big box stores!). Also, many smaller towns may only have a Barnes & Noble or a Borders and without it, their browsing would either be confined to the internet or driving to another town/city to be able to browse physical books.




People may say that if it weren’t for the big box stores that there would be more choice of independent bookstores to go to. That may be true, but at this point it’s sort of water under the bridge. It’s already happened so the only thing that we can do as a society is to change our policies to limit oligarchical business practices. We as a society may also need to rethink how much we are willing to pay for books to keep bookstores running. I know, I know…I am asking people to fight the Law of Supply and Demand. However, if we want more options with independent bookstores, we should be willing to pay higher prices. I am guilty of not buying books unless on sale or if I have a coupon. Only recently was I more loyal to independent bookstores. I even utilize the library quite a bit now to save money. I think most of us are guilty of doing those things because it is in fact The Law of Supply and Demand. That’s why it’s a “Law” and not a “Hypothesis”. People are willing (and able for that matter) to buy more goods and services if they are offered at lower prices. That’s just a cold, hard fact.



I will admit that a huge reason why this problem of failing business is as bad as it is, is because of the extended recession that is occurring worldwide. People aren’t purchasing luxury items like books (*gasp* I know…I just called books a luxury item) because they are trying to keep a roof over their head and put food on the table. When they do seek out their luxury items, they look for them at a discount and end up at places like Amazon.com or BookDepository.com (or .uk) because it’s so much cheaper than buying from an independent store. I have to say that I don’t judge those people for making those choices since I myself have made these choices. Our choices have had the unfortunate side effect of reducing our choices of places to shop—but it’s been out of necessity for many, and the big box stores are to blame as well. Poor business practices by Borders and B&N let Amazon.com gain a huge market share in the book industry which I believe is the majority reason why both stores are struggling as much as they are (I can’t speak for Waterstones as I just heard about them for the first time several months ago).

So what is the solution to help failing bookstores? Should we be happy that big box stores aren't doing as well as they have in previous years and hope that this will mean a resurgence of independent bookstores? Do you think the book industry as a whole will suffer as a result of lagging sales or is it bound to make a comeback? I am not sure about the answers to these questions, but I do feel a little bit sad that it's possible that there will be less bookstores in my area to choose from in the very near future. I love reading and feel a sense of camaraderie when I see another person with a book. Even though some may hate the big box bookstore, I ultimately just want to see people reading and hope that we will still have a choice to go to brick-and-mortar stores in the future.



So, the questions for this week are:
  • Are you a big box buyer or a bargain shopper (used, library, discounted books, etc.) or a champion of independent bookstores?
  • What do you feel about the likely closure of 150-200 Borders bookstores across the U.S., or if you are from another country, how would you feel if that happened with your local big box bookstore?
  • What would you like to see happen in the retail book industry when the economy recovers? Be utopian or realistic…just tell me what you think!
  • Do you think the closure of big box stores will hurt future readers? Will we be less likely to read as a society or are we just moving toward newer technology like e-books?





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This doesn't really apply to me since I live in a different country that the US. When I visited there in 2009, I checked both big box stores and indie bookstores and loved both. I'm so jealous that you have so many choices. If we had indie bookstores here and they ordered the kind of books that I read, I'd definitely support them. As it is, we only have three major bookstores here in the Philippines and my favorite is Fully Booked because they have the best selections. Now that the Book Depository and Better World Books have free worldwide shipping, I end up ordering more books from them.

I understand why the closing of big box stores saddens you even if you don't buy from them. It means that it'll be harder for readers to buy books. :(
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2 replies · active 738 weeks ago
I AM a library user and a bargain hunter! When it comes to books I will use any method available to get what I want, but I won't pay the big bucks if I can avoid it, and I usually can. My town doesn't have a bookstore any more. It closed about 2-3 yrs ago, which was a little sad, but didn't really bother me as I refused to shop there since they only carried "politically correct" books and refused to sell books with the opposing viewpoint. I buy used from Amazon, shop at www.bookcloseouts.com, utilize my local used-book store occasionally, and most recently, get a lot of free, or very cheap books for my Kindle.

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My city has two Waterstones, but they've just announced that they're closing one of them. The indie bookshop is also closing down. It's really sad.
We'll still have one Waterstones left though, and we've also got a publishers outlet store where you can buy 3 books for £5, which kind of makes it hard for the other stores to compete in price.
Plus I think the bookstores find it very hard to compete with Amazon.
I think these days everyone is after a bargain and ultimately the cheaper option is always going to win.
1 reply · active 738 weeks ago
The amount of people I see moaning about money who can still afford ciggaretes and going down the pub... hah! £8 for several hours worth of entertainment is worth it and costs so much less then all that other crap out there. *book snob*

If Waterstones closes down then... there will be no walk in bookshop for many people to go to. I do have an indie bookshop that is technically nearer to me, but it'd require a special trip and I can't afford to make special trips to bookshops! If my local Waterstones closes down then I'll be very sad because as much as I like the indie bookshop near me... I probably already own half the books on the shelves anyway. (Do I have a problem)

I don't shop with Amazon for books any more. It's unbooky... I prefer Book Depository whether that is any different or not I don't know. I certainly won't use Amazon now due to the Kindle. It pisses me off that they want to force people to use their website to buy ebooks so THEY can get ALL the profit and then drive the prices down so much elsewhere... so sorry Amazon. You can eff the hell off. I think I'll be taking my music/dvd purchases elsewhere too.

I am quite a big buyer... I admit I like finding a bargain on book depository and the odd bargain bookshop but I'd say a good deal of my books I've paid full price - well might be sucked into the 'buy 2 get another free' thing but....

I always try to get a bookshop from an indie if I'm in the area. I can't walk into a bookshop without coming out with one anyway.

You know, I'd sooner go without electricity then give up buying books.

I think shopping online for books will probably replace walk in bookshops, horrifying as it is to say that... ugh but what choice soon will we have? Or it'll just be supermarkets. That horrifies me actually. I'm going to stop getting books from there. I don't get a lot of my books from supermarkets - well a good few but not the majority.

The thing is... I can browse The Book Depository and not buy a book (well... okay not all the time) but if I walk into a bookshop? I lose all control. I could have bought bloody shares in Waterstones by now...
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I will admit to buying wherever I happen to find books! Be it an indie, big box, grocery store, etc. Books are books and more places to buy them is definitely a good thing. I don't know what the solution is but it's definitely not a good thing to lose stores...
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BTW, Barnes and Noble Sunset Valley had it's best day since it opened over 10 years ago the day before Christmas.
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Pam Keener · 738 weeks ago

I have to say I shop at Borders primarily and okay I love browsing through all those books. I can spend hours in a bookstore. I really don't know what the answer is. I once went on a bus tour to Greenwich Village for a bookstore tourism non credit college course. We were given a map of all the independent bookstores. I must say I loved the quaint bookstores but I felt most comfortable in The Strand. I really like to hold books in my hand and read the blurbs. There is another bookstore I love when I go to Rehobeth Beach, DE called The Atlantic bookstore. They always have recommendations like Borders if you liked a particular book then try this book. There are also staff recommendations. I hope the stores don't go away but the economy is such that it is hard to survive.
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1 reply · active 738 weeks ago
I do a lot of my book shopping online. Part of this is my personal budget--I like bargains! And part of this is selection. There are so many more choices in a virtual warehouse. In the last year I've rediscovered the joy of the local library system, and I've become a regular patron.

In an intellectual sense, I champion independent bookstores. I say "intellectual" because in practice, I'm either buying online or in the local B&N and Borders (both of which I can walk to from my office). Buying independent where I live means driving 15+ miles out of my way, so that doesn't happen often. I LOVE the fact that my dad's small town has only one bookstore, and it's an indie. I make a point of going there and spending money whenever I visit him.

I've seen some talk in Shelf Awareness articles that the big-box closings might provide indies some breathing room, and that genre-specific indies might be on the rise. I find this an interesting idea, and hope that smaller stores flourish as the big chains retract. I'm not sure I'm optimistic enough to think that will happen everywhere, though.
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I do shop at big box stores precisely for the reason you mention-- my dollar goes further. But in my case it's a little more than that. There is an independent bookstore in my town that everyone loves, but I personally think their service is not very good. They are difficult to talk and it's difficult to even get someone to talk to you. I much prefer the used bookstore in my neighborhood and shop there often, but obviously I can't get new titles there. Those are really the only options in my town, so when I go back to visit my parents I shop at the Barnes and Noble there because the employees are great. I think it's great to support an independent bookstore, but the employees have to make me want to shop there and spend a little extra, it's not good enough to rely on the fact that you're independent to get customers.
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1 reply · active 735 weeks ago
I I don't live in the US, so this doesn't relate to me. But it would break my heart if a book store I loved was shut down! If we had independent bookstores here, I'd definitely support them. Nowadays , I order most of my books online , from Better World Books and Flipkart (which only ships to my country ) but I still love visiting book-stores.
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There is this big public debate in Australia at the moment concerning online shopping and the GST. We have a 10% Goods and Services Tax on everything. When we shop online on an overseas website, if the purchase is under $1000 we don't pay the GST or any other taxes. This means things like books (which as you know are stupidly expensive here anyway) are dead cheap... and when you throw in free postage from places like Book Depository, well... more and more people are choosing to shop online.

So the big retailers in this country have banded together to lobby the government to impose GST on all imported goods. How this would be done is confusing, as they can't force overseas retailers to add our tax to our purchases... but personally, I am mad! These big retailers like Harvey Norman have been overcharging the public for years and now consumers finally have other choices, they are crying poor.

The solution? In my opinion, they should shut up their whinging, get a good online personality and sell sell sell! Offers discounts and incentives. Play the game! Try their best to be COMPETITIVE! .... and allow consumers to make their own choices. As it stands, these big wigs are saying that the GST is needed for a "more competitive playing field"... ahhh no, you weren't interested in that when you were the only stores around.. you have run so many family businesses into the ground and NOW YOU ARE CRYING POOR!? ... it makes me mad (as you can see hehe)

So I know that was pretty much unrelated ... but it made me think of it.
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I'm a little of everything. I shop at the "box store" online version (Chapters.ca) because the prices are just as good as Amazon.com. I also love thrift shops and used book stores. Value Village is a treasure trove of cheap bestsellers and classics alike. On the other hand, I've put myself on a strict book buying ban this year, mainly because I already have plenty of books and I want to read more of what I own. Whenever I don't feel like reading what's on my shelf, I'll go to the library. So long as money isn't leaving my pocket, I'm happy.
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